Comments on: Top feature requests on bugs.adobe.com http://www.peterelst.com/blog/2009/08/15/top-feature-requests-on-bugs-adobe-com/ Flash Platform Geek Wed, 04 Jan 2012 21:31:54 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Chuck http://www.peterelst.com/blog/2009/08/15/top-feature-requests-on-bugs-adobe-com/comment-page-1/#comment-22556 Chuck Sun, 16 Aug 2009 03:51:05 +0000 http://www.peterelst.com/blog/?p=2402#comment-22556 Our bug for "Open Microphone Object" is close to the top 5 with 111 votes. http://bugs.adobe.com/jira/browse/FP-1766. It would be great to have more attention and traction as I know so many are looking for this feature. Learn more at our community site: http://www.getmicrophone.com. Our bug for “Open Microphone Object” is close to the top 5 with 111 votes. http://bugs.adobe.com/jira/browse/FP-1766. It would be great to have more attention and traction as I know so many are looking for this feature. Learn more at our community site: http://www.getmicrophone.com.

]]> By: Tomsamson http://www.peterelst.com/blog/2009/08/15/top-feature-requests-on-bugs-adobe-com/comment-page-1/#comment-22554 Tomsamson Sun, 16 Aug 2009 02:23:50 +0000 http://www.peterelst.com/blog/?p=2402#comment-22554 Hope the post made sense, in either case its at least useful as example for showing why one should reread stuff one writes with a cell phone keyboard before pressing submit =( =) Hope the post made sense, in either case its at least useful as example for showing why one should reread stuff one writes with a cell phone keyboard before pressing submit =( =)

]]> By: Tomsamson http://www.peterelst.com/blog/2009/08/15/top-feature-requests-on-bugs-adobe-com/comment-page-1/#comment-22553 Tomsamson Sun, 16 Aug 2009 02:19:22 +0000 http://www.peterelst.com/blog/?p=2402#comment-22553 While i appreciate being open about bug and feature tracking there are several big problems with this . First of all many designers i talk to are not used to submitting vug reports and feature requests on jira etc making those services with very squewed representation of what the majority would actually like. Then some known developer bloggers squew it even further by hyping up what is important to them on their blogs so it gets voted up. Totally understandablr of course but just embraces the problem. Then its also not exactly motivating on the other hand to see things mentioned and ranked high in the list partially still not getting addressed for a very long time. Not to just moan, whst about adding other feedback mechanisms into the mix to get reallly broad userbase feedback? Reallly briadly public alphas and betas, public surveys like private beta surveys, more regular updates abd bigger quality ensurance and dupport teams While i appreciate being open about bug and feature tracking
there are several big problems with this
. First of all many designers i talk to are not used to submitting vug reports and feature requests on jira etc making those services with very squewed representation of what the majority would actually like. Then some known developer bloggers squew it even further by hyping up what is important to them on their blogs so it gets voted up. Totally understandablr of course but just embraces the problem. Then its also not exactly motivating on the other hand to see things mentioned and ranked high in the list partially still not getting addressed for a very long time. Not to just moan, whst about adding other feedback mechanisms into the mix to get reallly broad userbase feedback? Reallly briadly public alphas and betas, public surveys like private beta surveys, more regular updates abd bigger quality ensurance and dupport teams

]]> By: Jamie McDaniel http://www.peterelst.com/blog/2009/08/15/top-feature-requests-on-bugs-adobe-com/comment-page-1/#comment-22552 Jamie McDaniel Sun, 16 Aug 2009 01:58:58 +0000 http://www.peterelst.com/blog/?p=2402#comment-22552 Yes, please everyone vote for the mousewheel on Mac! It must be something REALLY off the wall difficult for why this has not happened yet. The high profile flash apps that do scroll on a Mac are using javascript workarounds to capture the mousewheel in the browser and call a function in Flash. Yes, please everyone vote for the mousewheel on Mac! It must be something REALLY off the wall difficult for why this has not happened yet. The high profile flash apps that do scroll on a Mac are using javascript workarounds to capture the mousewheel in the browser and call a function in Flash.

]]> By: TJ Downes http://www.peterelst.com/blog/2009/08/15/top-feature-requests-on-bugs-adobe-com/comment-page-1/#comment-22551 TJ Downes Sat, 15 Aug 2009 19:23:23 +0000 http://www.peterelst.com/blog/?p=2402#comment-22551 Ryan, cool website, I wanted to say off the start! I feel your feelings may be a bit biased. I played with Flash for years. Im not a programming purist. I just really didn't like ActionScript, nor did I like using the Flash tools. Once AS3 was released the tooling for developers became a lot better and coding with AS was a lot more fun and enjoyable. I understand that a lot of designers didn't like the changes to AS. After all, it required actually learning OO programming concepts, which are not easy. But overall the changes have made the language more efficient, the tooling much better and many more serious developers came on board. It was a much needed change and has launched the entire Flash Platform into an entirely new light, a serious development platform. The reason you are seeing these votes are because of the influx of developers to the platform. We are stretching the limits of the language and runtime. We are doing things just couldn't be done in AS2, or that designers really weren't trying to take advantage of. I feel these accurately reflect the needs of the Flash developer community. Maybe the Flash design community just needs to be more vocal about their needs too? Ryan,

cool website, I wanted to say off the start!

I feel your feelings may be a bit biased. I played with Flash for years. Im not a programming purist. I just really didn’t like ActionScript, nor did I like using the Flash tools. Once AS3 was released the tooling for developers became a lot better and coding with AS was a lot more fun and enjoyable.

I understand that a lot of designers didn’t like the changes to AS. After all, it required actually learning OO programming concepts, which are not easy. But overall the changes have made the language more efficient, the tooling much better and many more serious developers came on board. It was a much needed change and has launched the entire Flash Platform into an entirely new light, a serious development platform.

The reason you are seeing these votes are because of the influx of developers to the platform. We are stretching the limits of the language and runtime. We are doing things just couldn’t be done in AS2, or that designers really weren’t trying to take advantage of.

I feel these accurately reflect the needs of the Flash developer community. Maybe the Flash design community just needs to be more vocal about their needs too?

]]> By: Peter http://www.peterelst.com/blog/2009/08/15/top-feature-requests-on-bugs-adobe-com/comment-page-1/#comment-22547 Peter Sat, 15 Aug 2009 16:00:03 +0000 http://www.peterelst.com/blog/?p=2402#comment-22547 <a href="http://www.peterelst.com/blog/2009/08/15/top-feature-requests-on-bugs-adobe-com/#comment-22542" rel="nofollow">@Tek</a> Great, thanks for those tips - its not very intuitive how you get hold of that information. <a href="http://www.peterelst.com/blog/2009/08/15/top-feature-requests-on-bugs-adobe-com/#comment-22543" rel="nofollow">@James</a> Thanks for stopping by James, I just filtered for open feature requests, you do have a good list of bugs and feature requests there! <a href="http://www.peterelst.com/blog/2009/08/15/top-feature-requests-on-bugs-adobe-com/#comment-22545" rel="nofollow">@Matt</a> Here is the feature request for mousewheel support on Mac, you can vote for the issue and watch it to be alerted of any updates. https://bugs.adobe.com/jira/browse/FP-1283 <a href="http://www.peterelst.com/blog/2009/08/15/top-feature-requests-on-bugs-adobe-com/#comment-22546" rel="nofollow"></a> Don't really agree with you there Ryan, the fact that there are so many votes for things like "acoustic echo cancellation" is an indication that is a major show-stopper for some developers. What I do think is a problem is that relatively minor annoyances typically don't get reported because people don't take the trouble to submit it. The example you gave about palette resizing in Flash CS4 is definitely a valid one but wouldn't be listed there since Flash authoring is not a project on the open bug base. You can see the list of projects currently available on the open bug base system here: https://bugs.adobe.com/jira/secure/BrowseProjects.jspa @Tek

Great, thanks for those tips – its not very intuitive how you get hold of that information.

@James

Thanks for stopping by James, I just filtered for open feature requests, you do have a good list of bugs and feature requests there!

@Matt

Here is the feature request for mousewheel support on Mac, you can vote for the issue and watch it to be alerted of any updates.

https://bugs.adobe.com/jira/browse/FP-1283

Don’t really agree with you there Ryan, the fact that there are so many votes for things like “acoustic echo cancellation” is an indication that is a major show-stopper for some developers.

What I do think is a problem is that relatively minor annoyances typically don’t get reported because people don’t take the trouble to submit it.

The example you gave about palette resizing in Flash CS4 is definitely a valid one but wouldn’t be listed there since Flash authoring is not a project on the open bug base.

You can see the list of projects currently available on the open bug base system here:

https://bugs.adobe.com/jira/secure/BrowseProjects.jspa

]]> By: Ryan Henson Creighton http://www.peterelst.com/blog/2009/08/15/top-feature-requests-on-bugs-adobe-com/comment-page-1/#comment-22546 Ryan Henson Creighton Sat, 15 Aug 2009 15:46:08 +0000 http://www.peterelst.com/blog/?p=2402#comment-22546 W to the T to the F? This is clearly an example of a vocal minority urging Adobe to focus on a few very niche features. This is the type of noise that took Flash from being an excellent interactive web animation tool to a needlessly complex development platform, just to garner approval from programming purists and assorted eggheads. Seriously though, this list is nonsense. i can't count the number of times i've tried to resize the tool pallettes in Flash CS4 from the top, only to find that the resize control is at the bottom and i can't get to it because the pallette is trailing off the bottom of my monitor display, and i've thought to myself "gee - Flash really needs acoustic echo cancellation support." W to the T to the F? This is clearly an example of a vocal minority urging Adobe to focus on a few very niche features. This is the type of noise that took Flash from being an excellent interactive web animation tool to a needlessly complex development platform, just to garner approval from programming purists and assorted eggheads.

Seriously though, this list is nonsense. i can’t count the number of times i’ve tried to resize the tool pallettes in Flash CS4 from the top, only to find that the resize control is at the bottom and i can’t get to it because the pallette is trailing off the bottom of my monitor display, and i’ve thought to myself “gee – Flash really needs acoustic echo cancellation support.”

]]> By: Matt Giger http://www.peterelst.com/blog/2009/08/15/top-feature-requests-on-bugs-adobe-com/comment-page-1/#comment-22545 Matt Giger Sat, 15 Aug 2009 15:35:55 +0000 http://www.peterelst.com/blog/?p=2402#comment-22545 When will they ever get mousewheel support for the Mac? When will they ever get mousewheel support for the Mac?

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]]> By: James Ward http://www.peterelst.com/blog/2009/08/15/top-feature-requests-on-bugs-adobe-com/comment-page-1/#comment-22543 James Ward Sat, 15 Aug 2009 15:10:34 +0000 http://www.peterelst.com/blog/?p=2402#comment-22543 Hi Peter, Actually there are some higher voted issues than some of those: Ability to intercept system error dialogs (386 votes) https://bugs.adobe.com/jira/browse/FP-444 Incorrect unicode input in linux (220 votes) https://bugs.adobe.com/jira/browse/FP-40 Unacceptable CPU Use on Idle (210 votes) https://bugs.adobe.com/jira/browse/FP-2009 Passing Actionscript generated PCM audio data to the sound-card (171 votes) https://bugs.adobe.com/jira/browse/FP-1490 linux Flash Player 9.0.124 plays video with very low frame rates (169 votes) https://bugs.adobe.com/jira/browse/FP-83 A Maven2 plugin to integrate Flex into enterprise projects and continuous integration (144 votes) https://bugs.adobe.com/jira/browse/SDK-12730 And some other highly voted ones: Source code formatter (124 votes) https://bugs.adobe.com/jira/browse/FB-8297 flash player fails to properly scale and play back video (121 votes) https://bugs.adobe.com/jira/browse/FP-114 Flash movies over all the elements (119 votes) https://bugs.adobe.com/jira/browse/FP-120 Open Microphone Object in Flash Player (111 votes) https://bugs.adobe.com/jira/browse/FP-1766 [AS4] Threading (110 votes) https://bugs.adobe.com/jira/browse/ASC-3222 Dynamic Proxies (103 votes) https://bugs.adobe.com/jira/browse/ASC-3136 [external] Customizing Flash Context Menus (99 votes) https://bugs.adobe.com/jira/browse/SDK-14327 If these bugs or feature requests impact you then please vote and comment on the bugs. -James Hi Peter,

Actually there are some higher voted issues than some of those:
Ability to intercept system error dialogs (386 votes)
https://bugs.adobe.com/jira/browse/FP-444

Incorrect unicode input in linux (220 votes)
https://bugs.adobe.com/jira/browse/FP-40

Unacceptable CPU Use on Idle (210 votes)
https://bugs.adobe.com/jira/browse/FP-2009

Passing Actionscript generated PCM audio data to the sound-card (171 votes)
https://bugs.adobe.com/jira/browse/FP-1490

linux Flash Player 9.0.124 plays video with very low frame rates (169 votes)
https://bugs.adobe.com/jira/browse/FP-83

A Maven2 plugin to integrate Flex into enterprise projects and continuous integration (144 votes)
https://bugs.adobe.com/jira/browse/SDK-12730

And some other highly voted ones:

Source code formatter (124 votes)
https://bugs.adobe.com/jira/browse/FB-8297

flash player fails to properly scale and play back video (121 votes)
https://bugs.adobe.com/jira/browse/FP-114

Flash movies over all the elements (119 votes)
https://bugs.adobe.com/jira/browse/FP-120

Open Microphone Object in Flash Player (111 votes)
https://bugs.adobe.com/jira/browse/FP-1766

[AS4] Threading (110 votes)
https://bugs.adobe.com/jira/browse/ASC-3222

Dynamic Proxies (103 votes)
https://bugs.adobe.com/jira/browse/ASC-3136

[external] Customizing Flash Context Menus (99 votes)
https://bugs.adobe.com/jira/browse/SDK-14327

If these bugs or feature requests impact you then please vote and comment on the bugs.

-James

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