Comments on: The black box that is the Flash Player http://www.peterelst.com/blog/2010/01/21/the-black-box-that-is-the-flash-player/ Flash Platform Geek Wed, 04 Jan 2012 21:31:54 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Apple’s idea of the best web browsing experience | Peter Elst http://www.peterelst.com/blog/2010/01/21/the-black-box-that-is-the-flash-player/comment-page-1/#comment-23968 Apple’s idea of the best web browsing experience | Peter Elst Wed, 27 Jan 2010 23:53:27 +0000 http://www.peterelst.com/blog/?p=2810#comment-23968 [...] of Flash what you will, thats a different discussion, and I’ve shared my views in an earlier post. Flash content is an integral and important part of the web experience, [...] [...] of Flash what you will, thats a different discussion, and I’ve shared my views in an earlier post. Flash content is an integral and important part of the web experience, [...]

]]> By: Peter Strømberg http://www.peterelst.com/blog/2010/01/21/the-black-box-that-is-the-flash-player/comment-page-1/#comment-23912 Peter Strømberg Fri, 22 Jan 2010 06:58:53 +0000 http://www.peterelst.com/blog/?p=2810#comment-23912 It's easy to understand how tech blogs could get the wrong end of the stick when the Readme for Gordon, reads "Gordon: An open source Flash™ runtime written in pure JavaScript", but hey. I do honestly think there will be a shift from our beloved Flash towards HTML5, WebGL, etc. but I'm hopeful that a) it will take several years, and b) Adobe will respond with tools to create applications with these emerging standards, just as they have done with iPhone output in CS5 (If you can't join 'em, beat 'em, or at least circumnavigate their restrictions :). As soon as there's a market, Adobe will do what's needed to keep their customers, a big part of which is us, the Flash community. It’s easy to understand how tech blogs could get the wrong end of the stick when the Readme for Gordon, reads “Gordon: An open source Flash™ runtime written in pure JavaScript”, but hey.
I do honestly think there will be a shift from our beloved Flash towards HTML5, WebGL, etc. but I’m hopeful that a) it will take several years, and b) Adobe will respond with tools to create applications with these emerging standards, just as they have done with iPhone output in CS5 (If you can’t join ‘em, beat ‘em, or at least circumnavigate their restrictions :). As soon as there’s a market, Adobe will do what’s needed to keep their customers, a big part of which is us, the Flash community.

]]> By: Peter http://www.peterelst.com/blog/2010/01/21/the-black-box-that-is-the-flash-player/comment-page-1/#comment-23900 Peter Thu, 21 Jan 2010 12:59:13 +0000 http://www.peterelst.com/blog/?p=2810#comment-23900 @makc: that is not true, since the Open Screen Project announcement (May 1st 2008) that restriction is lifted. You are allowed to create code that plays back SWF content. Incidentally all license fees have been dropped to include Flash Player on your hardware. http://blogs.adobe.com/open/2008/04/the_open_screen_project.html @makc: that is not true, since the Open Screen Project announcement (May 1st 2008) that restriction is lifted. You are allowed to create code that plays back SWF content.

Incidentally all license fees have been dropped to include Flash Player on your hardware.

http://blogs.adobe.com/open/2008/04/the_open_screen_project.html

]]> By: Martijn http://www.peterelst.com/blog/2010/01/21/the-black-box-that-is-the-flash-player/comment-page-1/#comment-23899 Martijn Thu, 21 Jan 2010 12:41:33 +0000 http://www.peterelst.com/blog/?p=2810#comment-23899 The only problem with Flash being proprietary is the decisions to fix or implement a feature in the Player. There are things in the flash player that I posted as bugs which where resolved 3 or 4 versions later (major versions). Besides that I'm a iPhone and Mac user but I'm very disappointed with Apple regarding Flash Player. Maybe it is because the Flash Player can do things a native app could do too but I still think I would use a native app before any webpage. And when CS5 is released they have a big problem if the promise to export iPhone apps is as they say. The only problem with Flash being proprietary is the decisions to fix or implement a feature in the Player. There are things in the flash player that I posted as bugs which where resolved 3 or 4 versions later (major versions).

Besides that I’m a iPhone and Mac user but I’m very disappointed with Apple regarding Flash Player. Maybe it is because the Flash Player can do things a native app could do too but I still think I would use a native app before any webpage. And when CS5 is released they have a big problem if the promise to export iPhone apps is as they say.

]]> By: makc http://www.peterelst.com/blog/2010/01/21/the-black-box-that-is-the-flash-player/comment-page-1/#comment-23895 makc Thu, 21 Jan 2010 11:46:02 +0000 http://www.peterelst.com/blog/?p=2810#comment-23895 Re "There is literally nothing stopping anyone from developing an open source Flash Player" *cough* it's quite the opposite, since Adobe provides swf specs under condition that that information will not be used to create a player. Re “There is literally nothing stopping anyone from developing an open source Flash Player” *cough* it’s quite the opposite, since Adobe provides swf specs under condition that that information will not be used to create a player.

]]> By: Kristof Elst http://www.peterelst.com/blog/2010/01/21/the-black-box-that-is-the-flash-player/comment-page-1/#comment-23892 Kristof Elst Thu, 21 Jan 2010 11:04:55 +0000 http://www.peterelst.com/blog/?p=2810#comment-23892 I can't believe people actually say that ... Very nice rebuttal! I can’t believe people actually say that … Very nice rebuttal!

]]> By: oos http://www.peterelst.com/blog/2010/01/21/the-black-box-that-is-the-flash-player/comment-page-1/#comment-23885 oos Thu, 21 Jan 2010 09:57:07 +0000 http://www.peterelst.com/blog/?p=2810#comment-23885 Right on man! The reports about this by certain tech-media have been _very_ uninformed, to say the least. Right on man! The reports about this by certain tech-media have been _very_ uninformed, to say the least.

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