Comments on: Trying out the iPad browsing experience http://www.peterelst.com/blog/2010/01/28/trying-out-the-ipad-browsing-experience/ Flash Platform Geek Wed, 04 Jan 2012 21:31:54 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Michael http://www.peterelst.com/blog/2010/01/28/trying-out-the-ipad-browsing-experience/comment-page-1/#comment-24228 Michael Thu, 25 Mar 2010 21:21:23 +0000 http://www.peterelst.com/blog/?p=2886#comment-24228 I found a fun piece of code for iPad. It is an example of how to swap a Flash SWF with an image if your user agent is an iPad. <a href="http://www.combsconsulting.com/ipad-replace-flash-with-image-java-script-example/" rel="nofollow">http://www.combsconsulting.com/ipad-replace-flash-with-image-java-script-example/</a> I found a fun piece of code for iPad. It is an example of how to swap a Flash SWF with an image if your user agent is an iPad.

http://www.combsconsulting.com/ipad-replace-flash-with-image-java-script-example/

]]> By: Olivia Spensor http://www.peterelst.com/blog/2010/01/28/trying-out-the-ipad-browsing-experience/comment-page-1/#comment-24132 Olivia Spensor Sat, 13 Feb 2010 09:15:33 +0000 http://www.peterelst.com/blog/?p=2886#comment-24132 This is really frustrating for all of us.Thanks for keeping update to us.It’s interesting to see how the rest of the industry is reacting to Apple’s lack of Flash in their mobile products (iPhone, iPod Touch, iPad). This is really frustrating for all of us.Thanks for keeping update to us.It’s interesting to see how the rest of the industry is reacting to Apple’s lack of Flash in their mobile products (iPhone, iPod Touch, iPad).

]]> By: Stan Vassilev http://www.peterelst.com/blog/2010/01/28/trying-out-the-ipad-browsing-experience/comment-page-1/#comment-24080 Stan Vassilev Sun, 31 Jan 2010 12:57:52 +0000 http://www.peterelst.com/blog/?p=2886#comment-24080 It's interesting to point out how the rest of the industry is reacting to Apple's lack of Flash in their mobile products (iPhone, iPod Touch, iPad). We're not seeing anyone but Adobe protest, we instead see those sites come out with Flash-less versions of their content. Be it by HTML5 versions, or apps. This should give Adobe a clear picture of what their bargaining position is. And while as a Flash developer I'm upset Flash may enter into a decline as a result, our opinion, or just that of Adobe is not enough to turn the tables in their favor. It’s interesting to point out how the rest of the industry is reacting to Apple’s lack of Flash in their mobile products (iPhone, iPod Touch, iPad).

We’re not seeing anyone but Adobe protest, we instead see those sites come out with Flash-less versions of their content. Be it by HTML5 versions, or apps.

This should give Adobe a clear picture of what their bargaining position is. And while as a Flash developer I’m upset Flash may enter into a decline as a result, our opinion, or just that of Adobe is not enough to turn the tables in their favor.

]]> By: Matthew Fabb http://www.peterelst.com/blog/2010/01/28/trying-out-the-ipad-browsing-experience/comment-page-1/#comment-24076 Matthew Fabb Sat, 30 Jan 2010 14:24:47 +0000 http://www.peterelst.com/blog/?p=2886#comment-24076 As a developer I personally, never saw the open web as very open, as it doesn't matter what the W3C standards states, all the matters is how any major browser vendor renders the content. Any major company can enter the browser market and if they get enough market share, then your website needs to be optimized for their browser. So the choice seems to be between one vendor for plugins or multiple vendors for browsers. Meanwhile, I also see that plugins, not just Macromedia/Adobe with Flash, have really extended the web and have done it a lot quicker than any standards. I think there's a place for Java, Unity3D, Silverlight, Google Gears and anything else that can fill in a gap that HTML isn't. Almost a test lab for new functionality that can later be incorporated into the browser after maybe years. As a developer I personally, never saw the open web as very open, as it doesn’t matter what the W3C standards states, all the matters is how any major browser vendor renders the content. Any major company can enter the browser market and if they get enough market share, then your website needs to be optimized for their browser.

So the choice seems to be between one vendor for plugins or multiple vendors for browsers.

Meanwhile, I also see that plugins, not just Macromedia/Adobe with Flash, have really extended the web and have done it a lot quicker than any standards. I think there’s a place for Java, Unity3D, Silverlight, Google Gears and anything else that can fill in a gap that HTML isn’t. Almost a test lab for new functionality that can later be incorporated into the browser after maybe years.

]]> By: Mads Djurhuua http://www.peterelst.com/blog/2010/01/28/trying-out-the-ipad-browsing-experience/comment-page-1/#comment-24053 Mads Djurhuua Thu, 28 Jan 2010 23:58:32 +0000 http://www.peterelst.com/blog/?p=2886#comment-24053 A few quick thoughts: - if Apple is so darn committed to everything being open why aren't they switching to Android or Linux (Maemo)? - why not include Flash capability and - like in every other browser and OS out there - enable the user to switch it off? IMO this is a crusade. I think Steve Jobs was turned down by a receptionist at Adobe or something. And yes, if not for this flaw I would buy the iPad in a heartbeat. To call it the best web browsing experience while displaying a webpage with a missing pluing icon is the ultimate prank. He is toying with his minions - and we're gobbling it up by the spoonful :-) And yes, I am also a Flash (Lite) developer frustrated by the lack of access to the most exciting mobile platform out there (although Apps will soon be possible for us underlings). Oh, and BTW - lighten up, donate some cash for Haiti and feel good about yourself and Steve. cheers A few quick thoughts:
- if Apple is so darn committed to everything being open why aren’t they switching to Android or Linux (Maemo)?
- why not include Flash capability and – like in every other browser and OS out there – enable the user to switch it off?

IMO this is a crusade. I think Steve Jobs was turned down by a receptionist at Adobe or something.
And yes, if not for this flaw I would buy the iPad in a heartbeat. To call it the best web browsing experience while displaying a webpage with a missing pluing icon is the ultimate prank. He is toying with his minions – and we’re gobbling it up by the spoonful :-)

And yes, I am also a Flash (Lite) developer frustrated by the lack of access to the most exciting mobile platform out there (although Apps will soon be possible for us underlings).

Oh, and BTW – lighten up, donate some cash for Haiti and feel good about yourself and Steve.

cheers

]]> By: Jason Fincanon http://www.peterelst.com/blog/2010/01/28/trying-out-the-ipad-browsing-experience/comment-page-1/#comment-24047 Jason Fincanon Thu, 28 Jan 2010 22:25:44 +0000 http://www.peterelst.com/blog/?p=2886#comment-24047 yeah Nate, pft... ;) yeah Nate, pft… ;)

]]> By: Stefan Richter http://www.peterelst.com/blog/2010/01/28/trying-out-the-ipad-browsing-experience/comment-page-1/#comment-24042 Stefan Richter Thu, 28 Jan 2010 19:42:48 +0000 http://www.peterelst.com/blog/?p=2886#comment-24042 oh come on Nate, you brought us back on topic. How disappointing ;-) oh come on Nate, you brought us back on topic. How disappointing ;-)

]]> By: Nate Chatellier http://www.peterelst.com/blog/2010/01/28/trying-out-the-ipad-browsing-experience/comment-page-1/#comment-24040 Nate Chatellier Thu, 28 Jan 2010 18:56:11 +0000 http://www.peterelst.com/blog/?p=2886#comment-24040 I couldn't agree more w/ you Peter. Excellent video demonstration of your point. I couldn’t agree more w/ you Peter. Excellent video demonstration of your point.

]]> By: Jason Fincanon http://www.peterelst.com/blog/2010/01/28/trying-out-the-ipad-browsing-experience/comment-page-1/#comment-24039 Jason Fincanon Thu, 28 Jan 2010 18:25:03 +0000 http://www.peterelst.com/blog/?p=2886#comment-24039 Andrew, take it easy big guy. I'm pretty sure I never claimed to be a wiser person than you and I wasn't turning it into a personal attack on you. As a matter of fact, I admitted that I don't know you and that I was just telling you how you were coming across in these comments. And since I wasn't turning it into a personal attack against you, that nullifies your comment about it being a "tactic from people that have no arguments." To be completely honest with you, I keep my arguments to a minimum because, like I said before, you have to choose the right technology for the task at hand. If I went around bashing certain technologies like you're doing, then I'd look like a real hypocrite when the day came that a project called for it (I'm sure you'd just turn that project down so you don't have to tell me that). So just to reiterate: - Take it easy, man. Relax. - I never claimed to be wiser than you (just told you how you sounded). - I wasn't attacking you - I admitted I don't know you (you may be a great person or you may be a horse's a$$). - I keep my arguments mostly to myself. - Choose your technology based on the task at hand. I love you. <- is that what you need to hear? Andrew, take it easy big guy.
I’m pretty sure I never claimed to be a wiser person than you and I wasn’t turning it into a personal attack on you. As a matter of fact, I admitted that I don’t know you and that I was just telling you how you were coming across in these comments. And since I wasn’t turning it into a personal attack against you, that nullifies your comment about it being a “tactic from people that have no arguments.” To be completely honest with you, I keep my arguments to a minimum because, like I said before, you have to choose the right technology for the task at hand. If I went around bashing certain technologies like you’re doing, then I’d look like a real hypocrite when the day came that a project called for it (I’m sure you’d just turn that project down so you don’t have to tell me that).

So just to reiterate:
- Take it easy, man. Relax.
- I never claimed to be wiser than you (just told you how you sounded).
- I wasn’t attacking you
- I admitted I don’t know you (you may be a great person or you may be a horse’s a$$).
- I keep my arguments mostly to myself.
- Choose your technology based on the task at hand.

I love you. <- is that what you need to hear?

]]> By: John Dowdell http://www.peterelst.com/blog/2010/01/28/trying-out-the-ipad-browsing-experience/comment-page-1/#comment-24038 John Dowdell Thu, 28 Jan 2010 17:58:08 +0000 http://www.peterelst.com/blog/?p=2886#comment-24038 Although Apple employees have called me "troll blogger" (why, I do not know), I enjoy your reference there to "troll boggler". ;-) jd/adobe Although Apple employees have called me “troll blogger” (why, I do not know), I enjoy your reference there to “troll boggler”. ;-)

jd/adobe

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