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		<title>By: CareyAshley</title>
		<link>http://www.peterelst.com/blog/2010/04/09/apple-versus-developers-this-time-its-personal/comment-page-1/#comment-24545</link>
		<dc:creator>CareyAshley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Apr 2010 20:04:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Have no a lot of cash to buy some real estate? Don&#039;t worry, just because this is available to receive the &lt;a href=&quot;http://lowest-rate-loans.com&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;loans&lt;/a&gt; to resolve such kind of problems. Hence get a car loan to buy everything you want.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Have no a lot of cash to buy some real estate? Don&#8217;t worry, just because this is available to receive the <a href="http://lowest-rate-loans.com" rel="nofollow">loans</a> to resolve such kind of problems. Hence get a car loan to buy everything you want.</p>
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		<title>By: Audas</title>
		<link>http://www.peterelst.com/blog/2010/04/09/apple-versus-developers-this-time-its-personal/comment-page-1/#comment-24456</link>
		<dc:creator>Audas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Apr 2010 10:05:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>adobe is suing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>adobe is suing.</p>
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		<title>By: Graham Phillips</title>
		<link>http://www.peterelst.com/blog/2010/04/09/apple-versus-developers-this-time-its-personal/comment-page-1/#comment-24436</link>
		<dc:creator>Graham Phillips</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Apr 2010 10:59:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes this is bad from Apple, but Adobe&#039;s business analysts should have forseen this scenario and planned for it. Rather than throwing thir cross-compiler resources at the iPhone feature Adobe could have continued developing Alchemy to give us a finished product with Flash CS5. Alchemy continues to languish as a beta on labs, when it has such great potential.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes this is bad from Apple, but Adobe&#8217;s business analysts should have forseen this scenario and planned for it. Rather than throwing thir cross-compiler resources at the iPhone feature Adobe could have continued developing Alchemy to give us a finished product with Flash CS5. Alchemy continues to languish as a beta on labs, when it has such great potential.</p>
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		<title>By: klauzz</title>
		<link>http://www.peterelst.com/blog/2010/04/09/apple-versus-developers-this-time-its-personal/comment-page-1/#comment-24432</link>
		<dc:creator>klauzz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Apr 2010 16:03:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Developers! We can change the course of this battle!
HP Slate and HTC HD2 are in my wishlist.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Developers! We can change the course of this battle!<br />
HP Slate and HTC HD2 are in my wishlist.</p>
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		<title>By: prafuitu</title>
		<link>http://www.peterelst.com/blog/2010/04/09/apple-versus-developers-this-time-its-personal/comment-page-1/#comment-24424</link>
		<dc:creator>prafuitu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Apr 2010 05:48:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There go the Cupertino Comment SPAM ...zombies! (Borrowed and adapted from here: http://theflashblog.com/?p=1888 )</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There go the Cupertino Comment SPAM &#8230;zombies! (Borrowed and adapted from here: <a href="http://theflashblog.com/?p=1888" rel="nofollow">http://theflashblog.com/?p=1888</a> )</p>
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		<title>By: skierpage</title>
		<link>http://www.peterelst.com/blog/2010/04/09/apple-versus-developers-this-time-its-personal/comment-page-1/#comment-24421</link>
		<dc:creator>skierpage</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Apr 2010 00:47:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Gregir, thanks for pointing out the truth.

The alternative to both companies&#039; coercive agendas is the open web. Keep making great web sites and in a few years we&#039;ll laugh at the quaint idea of &quot;apps&quot; and &quot;app stores&quot; for particular hardware.  In the meantime make a Cocoa app that just creates a UIWebView to your site&#039;s URL for Apple fans that are slow on the uptake.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Gregir, thanks for pointing out the truth.</p>
<p>The alternative to both companies&#8217; coercive agendas is the open web. Keep making great web sites and in a few years we&#8217;ll laugh at the quaint idea of &#8220;apps&#8221; and &#8220;app stores&#8221; for particular hardware.  In the meantime make a Cocoa app that just creates a UIWebView to your site&#8217;s URL for Apple fans that are slow on the uptake.</p>
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		<title>By: Gregir</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gregir</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Apr 2010 00:19:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow, what a bunch of sour grapes and venom. I&#039;m a Flash developer myself, but I fail to see the problem, aside from having to learn something new. I can&#039;t make money developing iPhone/iPad apps with Flash. So what?! Six months ago, I didn&#039;t expect to be able to anyway!

You can develop for iPhone OS in three different, non-proprietary languages (Objective-C, C and C++) and one non-proprietary scripting language (JavaScript).  Sad that our language of choice (ActionScript) isn&#039;t on the list? Boo-hoo. Learn another language, if you call yourself a real developer.  Don&#039;t like that you have to have a Mac? Boo-hoo. A company is trying to make money by having you work via their technology to develop for their technology. How unprecedented and unreasonable!

Adobe is no different from Apple...or Microsoft etc. They want to make money by getting everyone possible to use their tools. Adobe can call it the &quot;Open&quot; screen project all they want, it&#039;s still an initiative to sell as many Adobe products as possible. It&#039;s not a philanthropic free-for-all to spread goodwill.

Every developer I&#039;ve ever respected looked at a platform, looked at the best tool for the job, and either used it, learned to use it, or moved on. I&#039;ve never seen anything ground-breaking, compelling or substantial that was created through a shortcut, cross-compile or hack.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, what a bunch of sour grapes and venom. I&#8217;m a Flash developer myself, but I fail to see the problem, aside from having to learn something new. I can&#8217;t make money developing iPhone/iPad apps with Flash. So what?! Six months ago, I didn&#8217;t expect to be able to anyway!</p>
<p>You can develop for iPhone OS in three different, non-proprietary languages (Objective-C, C and C++) and one non-proprietary scripting language (JavaScript).  Sad that our language of choice (ActionScript) isn&#8217;t on the list? Boo-hoo. Learn another language, if you call yourself a real developer.  Don&#8217;t like that you have to have a Mac? Boo-hoo. A company is trying to make money by having you work via their technology to develop for their technology. How unprecedented and unreasonable!</p>
<p>Adobe is no different from Apple&#8230;or Microsoft etc. They want to make money by getting everyone possible to use their tools. Adobe can call it the &#8220;Open&#8221; screen project all they want, it&#8217;s still an initiative to sell as many Adobe products as possible. It&#8217;s not a philanthropic free-for-all to spread goodwill.</p>
<p>Every developer I&#8217;ve ever respected looked at a platform, looked at the best tool for the job, and either used it, learned to use it, or moved on. I&#8217;ve never seen anything ground-breaking, compelling or substantial that was created through a shortcut, cross-compile or hack.</p>
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		<title>By: Another iBrick in the Apple Wall &#187; Just Another Rant</title>
		<link>http://www.peterelst.com/blog/2010/04/09/apple-versus-developers-this-time-its-personal/comment-page-1/#comment-24416</link>
		<dc:creator>Another iBrick in the Apple Wall &#187; Just Another Rant</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Apr 2010 21:18:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] are already a bunch of posts and commentary on the Apple SDK update prohibiting applications that link to Documented APIs through an [...]</description>
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		<title>By: prafuitu</title>
		<link>http://www.peterelst.com/blog/2010/04/09/apple-versus-developers-this-time-its-personal/comment-page-1/#comment-24415</link>
		<dc:creator>prafuitu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Apr 2010 21:16:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here&#039;s another nice one from Apple: they have removed the blue lego icon that was displayed where the Flash movies should have been. This would make it look as if the site itself was broken, hidding the fact that the device is unable to show the content.
Fortunetly, as a statement, Grant Skinner released a blueLego edition of SWFObject! :))
http://www.gskinner.com/blog/archives/2010/04/return_of_the_b.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217;s another nice one from Apple: they have removed the blue lego icon that was displayed where the Flash movies should have been. This would make it look as if the site itself was broken, hidding the fact that the device is unable to show the content.<br />
Fortunetly, as a statement, Grant Skinner released a blueLego edition of SWFObject! :))<br />
<a href="http://www.gskinner.com/blog/archives/2010/04/return_of_the_b.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.gskinner.com/blog/archives/2010/04/return_of_the_b.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Charles Maney</title>
		<link>http://www.peterelst.com/blog/2010/04/09/apple-versus-developers-this-time-its-personal/comment-page-1/#comment-24413</link>
		<dc:creator>Charles Maney</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Apr 2010 18:39:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@prafuitu
This would certainly explain why Jobs&#039; singled out Google and Adobe during his Town Hall meeting. MS needs Apple in some respect to fend off anti-trust issues. However, I don&#039;t really think Google does. As you say, the next few months will be exciting. I just hope that we, the developers, don&#039;t end up paying the price.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@prafuitu<br />
This would certainly explain why Jobs&#8217; singled out Google and Adobe during his Town Hall meeting. MS needs Apple in some respect to fend off anti-trust issues. However, I don&#8217;t really think Google does. As you say, the next few months will be exciting. I just hope that we, the developers, don&#8217;t end up paying the price.</p>
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